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Where Do You Fit In?

Recently Societies Committee have been discussing the current categories that our Societies fit into and how best we group their activities and represent their needs.

Couldn't think of an appropriate photo... so heres a slightly related meme!

 

Currently we have split societies into 7 categories and (seeing as we are looking to remove Performing Arts from the equation) it has been proposed that we move from these 7:

  1. Departmental
  2. International
  3. Performing Arts
  4. Political
  5. Postgraduate
  6. Religious
  7. Social

To these 12:

  1. Departmental
  2. Religious
  3. International
  4. Postgraduate
  5. Medical
  6. Political
  7. Activities
  8. Social Awareness
  9. Creative
  10. Enterprise
  11. Lifestyle
  12. Outdoors

This is going to be discussed at the next Societies Committee  and we would love your opinion on:

a. The categories ( Names, the number of categories, is there a better way of splitting them?)

b. Where you fit in? (Do you like where youve been placed)

c. Should societies commitee have a representative for each of these areas on it?

 

Check below for the full listings:

Departmental
Actuarial
Applied Social Science
Archaeology
Be A Boss – Management
Biological Science
Chemical
Civil and Environmental Engineers
Economics Society
Electronic & Computer Science
Engineering Society (SUES)
English Society
Environmental Science Students
Film (Filmsoc)
French (FrenSoc)
Geographical (GeogSoc)
Geological (Geolsoc)
German Society
History
Inns of Court
Law Society
Maths (SUMS)
MuSoc
NAMSOC
National Oceanography Centre Society (NOC soc)
Philosophy
Physics Society
Politics Association (SUPA)
Psychology Soc
Sociology and Social Policy
Spanish
SportSoc
Religious
Abrahamic Monotheistic
African Caribbean Christian Fellowship
Atheist
Buddhist Meditation
Catholic Society (CathSoc)
Christian Union
Hindu
Islamic
Jewish Society (J-SOC)
Krishna Consciousness
Sikh Society
SotonNavs (was Alpha)
Student Christian Movement
International
African and Caribbean
Asian Cultural
BG (Bulgarian )
Bruneian (BruSton)
Canadian Society
Chinese Student Society (CSS) (Hong Kong)
Chinese Students and Scholars Association (Main)
CymruSoc (Welshsoc)
Erasmus
Greek & Cypriot
India
Indonesian
Italian
Japanese
Korean Student Society
Libyan
Lithuanian
Malaysian Students Association (MSA)
Mauritian Society
Mexican Society
Middle Eastern Students’ (formerly Shabab)
Nordic Society
Pakistan
Persian
Polish Society
Pre Sessional
Romanian
Singapore
Sri Lankan Society
Tamil
Thai
Turkish
Vietnamese
Postgraduate
Life Sciences Postgraduate Society
Optical Society
Medical
Medical Education Student Society (MESS)
Medical Education Student Society (MESS)
Medical Society (Medsoc)
Medical Society (Medsoc)
Political
Amnesty International
Animal Rights
Conservative Association (SUCA)-
Feminist
Freedom
Green Action
Labour Club
Liberal Youth
Medsin Southampton
Model United Nations (MUN)
Socialist Students
Stop AIDS
Student Action for Refugees (STAR)
Students for Sensible Drug Policy
Unicef On Campus
Activities
Airsoft
ADhere
Astronomy  (Astrosoc)
Belly dance
Bridge Society
Chess
Computer Game (CGSoc)
Darts
Debating
Games
Guild of Change Ringers (SUGCR)
Poker Society
Pole Dancing For Fitness (PoleSoc)
Wireless (SUWS)
Wrestling
Social Awarness
Barnardo’s
Fight Against Cancer
Marrow
Mental Wealth
Save the Children
Students for Kids International Projects (SKIPSoc)
Switch Off Society
Creative 
Alternative Indie Music (AIM)
Anime and Manga (SAMS)
Art
DJ
LiveSoc
Photography (Photosoc)
Poetry Society
Pottery Society
Rock (Rocksoc)
Wessex Films
Enterprise
AIESEC Southampton
Break into Banking
Fish on Toast
Investment and Finance
Negotiation
SIFE
Lifestyle
Cake Decorating
Creativity & Innovation
Good Food
Health & Fitness
Health and Beauty
Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender (LGBT)
MemSoc
Real Ale and Real Cider
Rotaract
Yoga
Outdoor
Conservation Volunteers (SUVC)
Duke of Edinburgh (DofE)
LINKS
Parkour/freerunning
Picnic Society
SSAGO (Student Scout and Guide Organisation)

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40 Comments on "Where Do You Fit In?"

  1. Hannah
    Jonny Vaughan
    04/04/2012 at 11:47 pm Permalink

    ‎’Creative’ is far too vague a term for some of the societies that have been placed underneath it.
    AIM functions much more as an appreciation and entertainment society than one solely focused on actually ‘creating’ music.

    I don’t want to speak for others but I feel at the very least SAMS and RockSoc would feel the same.

    What about an ‘Entertainment’ category? There are probably a fair few other societies that would fit better within that distinction too.

    As a side note I have a feeling Atheist society will have something to say about being placed under ‘Religious

  2. Hannah
    Shane
    04/04/2012 at 11:54 pm Permalink

    Hmm… Fair. We went with creative as they all revolved around creating, appreciating creativity or both!

    What else could come under entertainment?

    I think the Athiest Society are currently classified as religious, but i get what you mean but, not sure where i would move them…

    What do you think to the number of Categories? and how many societies do you think it is realistic for one rep to be responsible for?

  3. Hannah
    Jonny Vaughan
    07/04/2012 at 3:15 pm Permalink

    Are Magic and Comedy soc affiliated? I can’t find them in the list.
    As I say, I don’t particularly want to speak for other groups either but they’d probably fit nicely under the Entertainment category as well.

    I can understand your worry about having a whole category with too few entries that fall under it though.

    As to the number, it’s good but only as long as it can successfully avoid being vague.

    I’d probably ask Atheist Society if they feel there’s somewhere they’d fit in better or whatever.

  4. Hannah
    Micheal O Thailtigh
    16/04/2012 at 3:40 pm Permalink

    Hey, Johnny and Shane,

    Surely Social Awareness would be a suitable category for the Atheist Society?

  5. Hannah
    Bella
    04/04/2012 at 11:48 pm Permalink

    I would say that STAR, Stop Aids and Unicef would be better placed under social awareness, and agree with Johnny’s point that there could perhaps be a better category for AIM, LiveSoc and RockSoc.

  6. Hannah
    Shane
    04/04/2012 at 11:51 pm Permalink

    Fair point ont he STAR, Stop Aids and Unicef.

    With regards to AIM Would it warrant having a group for just three societies?

    Or is there a better way to cut the pie?

  7. Hannah
    Bella
    04/04/2012 at 11:52 pm Permalink

    With regards to AIM, I wouldn’t want to speak for them – but if they are distinctly separate – like Postgrad and medical only have a few groups – I don’t see anything wrong with it. What will the categories be used for once they are decided?

  8. Hannah
    Shane
    04/04/2012 at 11:58 pm Permalink

    Well the main idea was to have a rep for each group on the committee, however as that stands now that would be 12 reps, which could be unsustainable.

  9. Hannah
    Milly
    05/04/2012 at 11:07 am Permalink

    Why could having 12 reps be unsustainable?

  10. Hannah
    Shane
    05/04/2012 at 1:14 pm Permalink

    Only because if you have 12 reps that are voting members it increases the amount of people that have to attend the socs committee to make it quorate (so it can make decisions).

  11. Hannah
    Bella
    04/04/2012 at 11:51 pm Permalink

    Also, I’m not 100% sure of Bella Bellwood’s remit (shameful I know) but is Belly Dance not PA?

  12. Hannah
    Shane
    04/04/2012 at 11:57 pm Permalink

    Apparently not, I’m not 100% sure but I think its something to do with the perception and the society exists for them to enjoy doing the activity rather than them performing the activity.

    Could well be an interesting debate though as arguably PA could support them better.

  13. Hannah
    Henry
    05/04/2012 at 12:18 am Permalink

    Personally I think that it is a massive mistake to have a “Medical” group.

    If it is generally accepted that the medical school still falls under SUSU then surely it should be a departmental society. I think you should be trying to encourage interdisciplinary socialising and sectioning off all the medical societies seems counter productive.

    What is the difference between the role played by say Physoc compared to Medsoc other than scale of the relevant departments? Surely the societies are broadly similar in terms of aim?

  14. Hannah
    Anon
    08/04/2012 at 11:19 am Permalink

    I agree with this. MedSoc should definitely be a departmental society. All the relevant strands of medicine are represented within the society itself so why would it need it’s own category?

  15. Hannah
    Matthew Higgins
    05/04/2012 at 2:43 am Permalink

    LINKS, the First Aid Society, in Outdoor?
    Really? It’s a tricky one, but I think it would be as suited to either Social Awareness, Activities or even lifestyle.
    Perhaps those with ‘charitable aims’ would be better lumped together?

  16. Hannah
    Tasha
    05/04/2012 at 8:46 am Permalink

    Hi

    Either I can’t read or Southampton Hub has been missed off altogether! We would fit best under social I think

  17. Hannah
    Rachael Avery
    05/04/2012 at 11:03 am Permalink

    I have a couple of issues with the naming and splitting of the ‘political’ grouping. As you probably know, I come from the Green Action point of view- but have links with similar societies. At first I thought maybe Green Action should be under ‘social awareness’ since we don’t have links with any political parties or associations, but then realised that we often informally refer to our socs grouping (Us, Fems, animal rights, SRSH, Amnesty, unicef etc.) as ‘activist’ societies. This doesn’t mean we chain ourselves to buildings or do anything illegal- it just means we try and make a difference through practical projects, gigs, awareness raising etc.

    I think instead of splitting ‘political’ into ‘political’ and ‘social awareness’, it should be ‘political’ for party-affiliated type societies and ‘activist’ or ‘activist and charitable’ for social/environmental justice, peace, and equality groups.

    P.S. Green action is NOT affiliated with any political parties- we are often mistaken for a green party group but we’re not 🙂

    I would suggest

  18. Hannah
    Rachael Avery
    05/04/2012 at 11:04 am Permalink

    ^ or perhaps ‘activist and social justice’

  19. Hannah
    Rachael Avery
    05/04/2012 at 11:09 am Permalink

    Also, LGBT might have something to say about being under ‘lifestyle’- it sort of implies that LGBT people are just doing it for the lols or something. I reckon political/social justice/activist or even social would be more appropriate (their society tends to swing back and forth between political and social depending on the committee each year).

  20. Hannah
    Tom
    05/04/2012 at 1:48 pm Permalink

    Yeah, we’ve been discussing this as a committee, haven’t yet reached any sort of consensus on what we believe would be best…

  21. Hannah
    Josh
    05/04/2012 at 11:36 am Permalink

    So what’s happened to the PA societies….? :S

  22. Hannah
    Shane
    05/04/2012 at 1:15 pm Permalink

    PA Societies are hopefully going to become separate from Societies Committee.

  23. Hannah
    Rob Hewitt
    05/04/2012 at 3:48 pm Permalink

    There are a lot of societies that offer their members the chance to compete for the university and I wonder if they would be best served by having their own category?

    I would also suggest volunteer as a category. This would be instead of social awareness and would also include some of the societies currently included in political and outdoor as Matthew mentioned below.

    I think categorising societies based on what they offer their members (the chance to volunteer, the chance to compete, the chance to get involved in politics, the chance to be creative…) is the most sensible way to do it, that way all the societies have something in common with the others in their category. At the moment the societies in outdoor wouldn’t have a lot of common issues for their rep to bring forward.

  24. Hannah
    Anon
    06/04/2012 at 4:43 pm Permalink

    To even think of branding LGBT as a “Lifestyle” society? Absolutely ridiculous, another stupid move by StupidSUSU.

  25. Hannah
    Shane
    07/04/2012 at 1:45 am Permalink

    Hey anon,

    Thanks for your feedback. As I’m sure you read in the blog this list is only a draft that is being considered at societies committee, not a decision.

    I look forward to your constructive suggestion on relocation. 🙂

  26. Hannah
    Anon
    07/04/2012 at 6:31 pm Permalink

    If certain societies don’t want to be labelled then they shouldn’t be categorised.

  27. Hannah
    Miranda
    09/04/2012 at 9:20 pm Permalink

    Haha, so, what, it’d be in an ‘Uncategorised’ category? That’s just plain silly.

  28. Hannah
    Anon^2
    10/04/2012 at 1:51 am Permalink

    Not as silly as implying that people chose to be LGBT, like they chose to practise yoga or decorate cakes – even in a draft, it is insensitive and shows total lack of understanding.

    A proportion of the population which can hardly be ignored is under the LGBT banner. If you cannot adequately place them in a categorization system, then it is highlighting the system is not adequate at all.

  29. Hannah
    Anon
    10/04/2012 at 12:13 pm Permalink

    At least SUSU wouldn’t be outright offensive. LGBT is not a lifestyle society and the Athiest society isn’t a religious society? Perhaps there shouldn’t be classifications of societies, and the societies commitee/reps idea needs rethinking somehow.

  30. Hannah
    Chloe
    06/04/2012 at 7:25 pm Permalink

    I completely agree with Rachael – ‘political’ and ‘activist/charitable’ is more apt than ‘political’ and ‘social awareness’. All the charity groups are certainly activists in that they actively endorse an ideology/cause, as are feminists, Green Actioners et al. ‘Social awareness’ is a bit wooly and would perhaps group together a lot of societies that don’t quite fit that definition.

  31. Hannah
    Zack Young
    08/04/2012 at 2:28 am Permalink

    I’m not sure whether I find the ‘LGBT’ society under ‘lifestyle’ abit offensive – perhaps the members need to be asked to get their views on this.

  32. Hannah
    Anon
    09/04/2012 at 11:19 am Permalink

    Worrying that “LGBT” is seen as a “lifestyle”.

  33. Hannah
    Miranda
    09/04/2012 at 9:24 pm Permalink

    I agree with most of this, seems pretty sensible. My only issue is that since there have been moves to incorporate postgrads into departmental societies, particularly in the case of having PostGrad Officers in committees in order to include the postgrads (we’ve had this in EngSoc for a year now), shouldn’t societies like this be included in the ‘PostGraduate’ category too?

  34. Hannah
    Shane
    16/04/2012 at 12:12 pm Permalink

    Hey Miranda,

    Fair comment! Will defo suggest this at committee!

    Shane

  35. Hannah
    Anon
    09/04/2012 at 9:53 pm Permalink

    The atheist society being listed as ‘religious’ seems to be a contentious placing. Are CymruSoc and the Scottish society and any regional society that may appear in future not perhaps better placed under a different heading to ‘International’?

    Would it also perhaps not be better to have a charitable group that societies could fit under? Perhaps where the missing Student Hubs might fit?

    Are societies going to be consulted as to where they would like to be placed?

  36. Hannah
    Shane
    16/04/2012 at 12:07 pm Permalink

    Hey Anon,

    Societies Committee will agree on the categories then it will be self selection for the societies to place themselves where they feel appropriate.

    With regards to the charitable groups, they are only affilated to us at the moment on the fact that they are there to raise awarenes as the constitution states we are not allowed to affliate groups that duplicate what other departments of the students’ union do ie RAG. However this could be a topic we could look into, and perhaps should.

    Cheers

    Shane

  37. Hannah
    Katie
    10/04/2012 at 10:28 am Permalink

    Considering the current drive to get postgrads more involved in SUSU I think having a seperate postgrad group is a bit of a mistake as it may give the false impression that these are the only societies postgrads are welcomed in or able to have a large input into. Many, if not all, of the societies in the other catagories have active postgrad members. Surely the two in the proposed Postgraduate group at the moment would be better under Departmental?

  38. Hannah
    Shane
    16/04/2012 at 12:09 pm Permalink

    Hey Katie,

    Very good point, seeing as there is only two that would fall under that category anyway this is certainly something i will reccomend to the committee.

    Cheers

    Shane

  39. Hannah
    Jonathan Bates
    11/04/2012 at 8:46 pm Permalink

    I don’t think the original post argues why this re-categorization is happening. Perhaps some elaboration would help?

  40. Hannah
    Shane
    16/04/2012 at 12:11 pm Permalink

    Hi Jonathan,

    Thanks for your comment! Essentially Societies committee are looking to have reps for each category to sit on the committee in order to get a wide spectrum of opinions. However it was noted from previous years that most of our societies fall under the ‘social’ category so we are essentially discussing if there is a better way of clasification in order to get a better spread and for each rep to have a manageable number of societies that they need to communicate with!

    Cheers

    Shane

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